loving joomla. setting up a cms ain't no shit 'specially doing it on your own. could use more content, but who couldn't? basically anything on my old pc EIGHTY, or new current hotbox Esuna that was of any merit whatsoever, has been queued for future use in this beautiful cms. lot of shit to understand, just when you think you have comprehension of PHP stuff like this is thrown at you and leaves a mother fucker wondering if they're on top their game. having fun tho! love poking around on the web doing shit productively and whatnot. problems tho, no converters for Vanilla to SMF. so maybe i'll keep VTC around until one is made, then i'll upgrade Vanilla only to convert it over to SMF and then i'll uninstall it! problems further when you consider what happens if say Krystal sets up an account there and later when i import posts from Vanilla. overrite, or what... so with regards to web design and development the scene is still hot and there are still things cooking out of the manufacturing plant, they're just isn't so hard of a push on it like there used to be. i care about a whole different subset of items now, being googles bitch is not one of them.